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posted by Jeremy Lang  on Aug. 13, 2018, 2:20 p.m. (1 month, 12 days ago)
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Looking for options to link screening rooms/theaters between locations. Have somethinghacked together but want to see what kind of turn-key options are out there that might make the experience more seamless, make everybody feel they're in the same room.
Anything specific to poke at, at Siggraph?

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Jeremy M. Lang
it4vfx

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Response from Rob LaRose @ Sept. 20, 2018, 2:30 p.m.

Yep, I sure have tried to stream a video on those. It's not good. I would expect that they'd offer any information on their website about how/why they're different/better.

I had emailed the guy, but never got an answer. Maybe I'll ping him again.
--Rob



--Rob LaRose
engineer |rock paper scissors
245 5th ave 23rd floor new york ny 10016| O212 255 6446




On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:05 PM Michael Oliver <mcoliver@gmail.com> wrote:
Ever try and stream a video on those? Doesn't work so well. Evercast is like Google Meets+ Twitch with notes, annotations, recordings, and a bunch of other features. You can also pipe in an external video source if that's your thing.
They come from this industry so they know what the pain points are and are really great with feedback. Again, like all the other stuff out there there is room for improvement (and it is early days for them) but may be a fit depending on what you are trying to accomplish.
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 7:05 AM Rob LaRose <rlarose@rockpaperscissors.com> wrote:

I'm curious about Evercast -- their website is short of details, except that they're name-dropping Adobe, Avid, etc.
What makes it different from Google Hangouts/teamviewer/any other videoconference/screenshare app?
--Rob


--Rob LaRose
engineer |rock paper scissors
245 5th ave 23rd floor new york ny 10016| O212 255 6446




On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:29 AM Michael Oliver <mcoliver@gmail.com> wrote:
RV, Cinesync, SyncSketch, RGBNotes, Scratch, Pix, MediaSilo, Streambox, Haivision, TVIPS, Bluejeans, etc.. all have their pros and cons. Still have not found the perfect solution yet for remote collaborative review combined with telepresence.
It always depends on the target audience but double screen: cinesync/rv/shotgun trifecta on one and something like Google Meet on the other seems to be a pretty decent option.
Really liking what the Roger and Brad's team is up to @ Evercast. Small nimble team and iterating fast.
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 9:56 AM Jeremy Lang <jeremy.lang@it4vfx.com> wrote:
We've played with RVsync, Scratch has some kind of sync, and we can stream output from one screening room to another via Vitec boxes that work pretty well.
But what people want is perfect Cinesync magic plus perfect video conferencing so they can look at people in a dark room (instead of the footage?)...

______________
Jeremy M. Lang
it4vfx

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Rob LaRose <rlarose@rockpaperscissors.com> wrote:
Hi Jeremy,
What's your hacked-together solution?
We are using Nevion TVG/TVIPS for quality low-latency remote viewing. We're looking into their Virtuoso solution going forward, which is allegedly higher latency but with a slate of new powers.
I'm also interested to hear what else people are doing for this over WAN (e.g., coast-to-coast).
--Rob





--Rob LaRose
engineer |rock paper scissors
245 5th ave 23rd floor new york ny 10016| O212 255 6446



On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Shawn Wallbridge <swallbridge@gmail.com> wrote:
We used RVsync, it worked ok.

shawn
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 2:16 PM Jeremy Lang <jeremy.lang@it4vfx.com> wrote:
>
> Looking for options to link screening rooms/theaters between locations. Have something hacked together but want to see what kind of turn-key options are out there that might make the experience more seamless, make everybody feel they're in the same room.
>
> Anything specific to poke at, at Siggraph?
>
>
> ______________
> Jeremy M. Lang
> it4vfx
>
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Response from Michael Oliver @ Sept. 20, 2018, 2:10 p.m.
Ever try and stream a video on those? Doesn't work so well. Evercast is like Google Meets+ Twitch with notes, annotations, recordings, and a bunch of other features. You can also pipe in an external video source if that's your thing.
They come from this industry so they know what the pain points are and are really great with feedback. Again, like all the other stuff out there there is room for improvement (and it is early days for them) but may be a fit depending on what you are trying to accomplish.
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 7:05 AM Rob LaRose <rlarose@rockpaperscissors.com> wrote:

I'm curious about Evercast -- their website is short of details, except that they're name-dropping Adobe, Avid, etc.
What makes it different from Google Hangouts/teamviewer/any other videoconference/screenshare app?
--Rob


--Rob LaRose
engineer |rock paper scissors
245 5th ave 23rd floor new york ny 10016| O212 255 6446




On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:29 AM Michael Oliver <mcoliver@gmail.com> wrote:
RV, Cinesync, SyncSketch, RGBNotes, Scratch, Pix, MediaSilo, Streambox, Haivision, TVIPS, Bluejeans, etc.. all have their pros and cons. Still have not found the perfect solution yet for remote collaborative review combined with telepresence.
It always depends on the target audience but double screen: cinesync/rv/shotgun trifecta on one and something like Google Meet on the other seems to be a pretty decent option.
Really liking what the Roger and Brad's team is up to @ Evercast. Small nimble team and iterating fast.
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 9:56 AM Jeremy Lang <jeremy.lang@it4vfx.com> wrote:
We've played with RVsync, Scratch has some kind of sync, and we can stream output from one screening room to another via Vitec boxes that work pretty well.
But what people want is perfect Cinesync magic plus perfect video conferencing so they can look at people in a dark room (instead of the footage?)...

______________
Jeremy M. Lang
it4vfx

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Rob LaRose <rlarose@rockpaperscissors.com> wrote:
Hi Jeremy,
What's your hacked-together solution?
We are using Nevion TVG/TVIPS for quality low-latency remote viewing. We're looking into their Virtuoso solution going forward, which is allegedly higher latency but with a slate of new powers.
I'm also interested to hear what else people are doing for this over WAN (e.g., coast-to-coast).
--Rob





--Rob LaRose
engineer |rock paper scissors
245 5th ave 23rd floor new york ny 10016| O212 255 6446



On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Shawn Wallbridge <swallbridge@gmail.com> wrote:
We used RVsync, it worked ok.

shawn
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 2:16 PM Jeremy Lang <jeremy.lang@it4vfx.com> wrote:
>
> Looking for options to link screening rooms/theaters between locations. Have something hacked together but want to see what kind of turn-key options are out there that might make the experience more seamless, make everybody feel they're in the same room.
>
> Anything specific to poke at, at Siggraph?
>
>
> ______________
> Jeremy M. Lang
> it4vfx
>
> To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe
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Response from Rob LaRose @ Sept. 20, 2018, 10:10 a.m.

I'm curious about Evercast -- their website is short of details, except that they're name-dropping Adobe, Avid, etc.
What makes it different from Google Hangouts/teamviewer/any other videoconference/screenshare app?
--Rob


--Rob LaRose
engineer |rock paper scissors
245 5th ave 23rd floor new york ny 10016| O212 255 6446




On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:29 AM Michael Oliver <mcoliver@gmail.com> wrote:
RV, Cinesync, SyncSketch, RGBNotes, Scratch, Pix, MediaSilo, Streambox, Haivision, TVIPS, Bluejeans, etc.. all have their pros and cons. Still have not found the perfect solution yet for remote collaborative review combined with telepresence.
It always depends on the target audience but double screen: cinesync/rv/shotgun trifecta on one and something like Google Meet on the other seems to be a pretty decent option.
Really liking what the Roger and Brad's team is up to @ Evercast. Small nimble team and iterating fast.
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 9:56 AM Jeremy Lang <jeremy.lang@it4vfx.com> wrote:
We've played with RVsync, Scratch has some kind of sync, and we can stream output from one screening room to another via Vitec boxes that work pretty well.
But what people want is perfect Cinesync magic plus perfect video conferencing so they can look at people in a dark room (instead of the footage?)...

______________
Jeremy M. Lang
it4vfx

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Rob LaRose <rlarose@rockpaperscissors.com> wrote:
Hi Jeremy,
What's your hacked-together solution?
We are using Nevion TVG/TVIPS for quality low-latency remote viewing. We're looking into their Virtuoso solution going forward, which is allegedly higher latency but with a slate of new powers.
I'm also interested to hear what else people are doing for this over WAN (e.g., coast-to-coast).
--Rob





--Rob LaRose
engineer |rock paper scissors
245 5th ave 23rd floor new york ny 10016| O212 255 6446



On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Shawn Wallbridge <swallbridge@gmail.com> wrote:
We used RVsync, it worked ok.

shawn
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 2:16 PM Jeremy Lang <jeremy.lang@it4vfx.com> wrote:
>
> Looking for options to link screening rooms/theaters between locations. Have something hacked together but want to see what kind of turn-key options are out there that might make the experience more seamless, make everybody feel they're in the same room.
>
> Anything specific to poke at, at Siggraph?
>
>
> ______________
> Jeremy M. Lang
> it4vfx
>
> To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe
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Response from Michael Oliver @ Sept. 20, 2018, 2:30 a.m.
RV, Cinesync, SyncSketch, RGBNotes, Scratch, Pix, MediaSilo, Streambox, Haivision, TVIPS, Bluejeans, etc.. all have their pros and cons. Still have not found the perfect solution yet for remote collaborative review combined with telepresence.
It always depends on the target audience but double screen: cinesync/rv/shotgun trifecta on one and something like Google Meet on the other seems to be a pretty decent option.
Really liking what the Roger and Brad's team is up to @ Evercast. Small nimble team and iterating fast.
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 9:56 AM Jeremy Lang <jeremy.lang@it4vfx.com> wrote:
We've played with RVsync, Scratch has some kind of sync, and we can stream output from one screening room to another via Vitec boxes that work pretty well.
But what people want is perfect Cinesync magic plus perfect video conferencing so they can look at people in a dark room (instead of the footage?)...

______________
Jeremy M. Lang
it4vfx

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Rob LaRose <rlarose@rockpaperscissors.com> wrote:
Hi Jeremy,
What's your hacked-together solution?
We are using Nevion TVG/TVIPS for quality low-latency remote viewing. We're looking into their Virtuoso solution going forward, which is allegedly higher latency but with a slate of new powers.
I'm also interested to hear what else people are doing for this over WAN (e.g., coast-to-coast).
--Rob





--Rob LaRose
engineer |rock paper scissors
245 5th ave 23rd floor new york ny 10016| O212 255 6446



On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Shawn Wallbridge <swallbridge@gmail.com> wrote:
We used RVsync, it worked ok.

shawn
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 2:16 PM Jeremy Lang <jeremy.lang@it4vfx.com> wrote:
>
> Looking for options to link screening rooms/theaters between locations. Have something hacked together but want to see what kind of turn-key options are out there that might make the experience more seamless, make everybody feel they're in the same room.
>
> Anything specific to poke at, at Siggraph?
>
>
> ______________
> Jeremy M. Lang
> it4vfx
>
> To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe
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Response from Jeremy Lang @ Sept. 19, 2018, 1 p.m.
We've played with RVsync, Scratch has some kind of sync, and we can stream output from one screening room to another via Vitec boxes that work pretty well.
But what people want is perfect Cinesync magic plus perfect video conferencing so they can look at people in a dark room (instead of the footage?)...

______________
Jeremy M. Lang
it4vfx

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Rob LaRose <rlarose@rockpaperscissors.com> wrote:
Hi Jeremy,
What's your hacked-together solution?
We are using Nevion TVG/TVIPS for quality low-latency remote viewing. We're looking into their Virtuoso solution going forward, which is allegedly higher latency but with a slate of new powers.
I'm also interested to hear what else people are doing for this over WAN (e.g., coast-to-coast).
--Rob





--Rob LaRose
engineer |rock paper scissors
245 5th ave 23rd floor new york ny 10016| O212 255 6446



On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Shawn Wallbridge <swallbridge@gmail.com> wrote:
We used RVsync, it worked ok.

shawn
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 2:16 PM Jeremy Lang <jeremy.lang@it4vfx.com> wrote:
>
> Looking for options to link screening rooms/theaters between locations. Have something hacked together but want to see what kind of turn-key options are out there that might make the experience more seamless, make everybody feel they're in the same room.
>
> Anything specific to poke at, at Siggraph?
>
>
> ______________
> Jeremy M. Lang
> it4vfx
>
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Response from Rob LaRose @ Aug. 14, 2018, 12:35 p.m.
Hi Jeremy,
What's your hacked-together solution?
We are using Nevion TVG/TVIPS for quality low-latency remote viewing. We're looking into their Virtuoso solution going forward, which is allegedly higher latency but with a slate of new powers.
I'm also interested to hear what else people are doing for this over WAN (e.g., coast-to-coast).
--Rob





--Rob LaRose
engineer |rock paper scissors
245 5th ave 23rd floor new york ny 10016| O212 255 6446



On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Shawn Wallbridge <swallbridge@gmail.com> wrote:
We used RVsync, it worked ok.

shawn
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 2:16 PM Jeremy Lang <jeremy.lang@it4vfx.com> wrote:
>
> Looking for options to link screening rooms/theaters between locations. Have something hacked together but want to see what kind of turn-key options are out there that might make the experience more seamless, make everybody feel they're in the same room.
>
> Anything specific to poke at, at Siggraph?
>
>
> ______________
> Jeremy M. Lang
> it4vfx
>
> To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe
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Response from Shawn Wallbridge @ Aug. 13, 2018, 6 p.m.
We used RVsync, it worked ok. shawn On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 2:16 PM Jeremy Lang wrote: > > Looking for options to link screening rooms/theaters between locations. Have something hacked together but want to see what kind of turn-key options are out there that might make the experience more seamless, make everybody feel they're in the same room. > > Anything specific to poke at, at Siggraph? > > > ______________ > Jeremy M. Lang > it4vfx > > To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe

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