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Posted by: Fabrice Altman  Date: 07-28-2010, 13:55:PM |
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Hi guys,
One of our company director recently visited Starz Anim Studio and seems very impressed by their set-up. What he keeps mentioning is that they have lots of very expensive looking “deep” monitors. I suspect 10bit grade 1 monitors of some kind. We are currently reviewing how we handle colour management throughout the studio so any piece of advice On the subject is of interest.
Would anyone from Starz like to shed some light on this ? What brand, calibration software etc ... ?
Cheers ! F. |
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Posted by: Robert Pringle Date: 07-28-2010, 14:05:PM |
Hey there, Anyone doing colour-critical work uses an HP Dreamcolor for the most part. They're very good but just a bit problematic on the low end of black. Something an artist should be able to compensate for once they're aware of it. Also stays calibrated for good periods of time (unlike the CRTs we had previously which needed to be constantly calibrated)... -Rob From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com [studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] On Behalf Of Fabrice Altman [fabrice@studioaka.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:52 AM To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com Subject: [SSA-Discuss] Starz : Ref / Compositing monitors ? Hi guys, One of our company director recently visited Starz Anim Studio and seems very impressed by their set-up. What he keeps mentioning is that they have lots of very expensive looking ?deep? monitors. I suspect 10bit grade 1 monitors of some kind. We are currently reviewing how we handle colour management throughout the studio so any piece of advice On the subject is of interest. Would anyone from Starz like to shed some light on this ? What brand, calibration software etc ... ? Cheers ! F. StudioSysAdmins-Discuss mailing list StudioSysAdmins-Discuss@studiosysadmins.com http://mailman.studiosysadmins.com/mailman/listinfo/studiosysadmins-discuss |
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Posted by: Terry Dale Date: 07-28-2010, 14:15:PM |
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As Rob said these are the LP2480zx Dream Color monitors. We are currently using Rising Sun Equal eyes to do the calibration. These are really great monitors but they can throw out a ton of light and you have to make sure you dial in your desired calibration before they will look correct. In our testing we have had them hold their calibration for 3 months but we do a shorter calibration cycle on the floor just to be safe. They have a 3 year warranty, HP has been really good about replacing bad ones we have 110 on the floor and had about a 30% failure rate, these are just anomalies that show up over time and since we started using them very early in their development we got some bad ones. The new ones seem much better but like I said HP replaces them with no questions asked and fast too. -Terry.
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[mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] On Behalf Of Fabrice
Altman
Hi guys, One of our company director recently visited Starz Anim Studio and seems very impressed by their set-up. What he keeps mentioning is that they have lots of very expensive looking “deep” monitors. I suspect 10bit grade 1 monitors of some kind. We are currently reviewing how we handle colour management throughout the studio so any piece of advice On the subject is of interest. Would anyone from Starz like to shed some light on this ? What brand, calibration software etc ... ? Cheers ! F. |
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Posted by: Fabrice Altman Date: 07-28-2010, 14:20:PM |
Hi Rob, May I ask what GPU you are using to handle the 30bit capability of this monitor ? Thanks, F. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Pringle [mailto:Robert.Pringle@Starz.com] Sent: 28 July 2010 19:04 To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Starz : Ref / Compositing monitors ? Hey there, Anyone doing colour-critical work uses an HP Dreamcolor for the most part. They're very good but just a bit problematic on the low end of black. Something an artist should be able to compensate for once they're aware of it. Also stays calibrated for good periods of time (unlike the CRTs we had previously which needed to be constantly calibrated)... -Rob StudioSysAdmins-Discuss mailing list StudioSysAdmins-Discuss@studiosysadmins.com http://mailman.studiosysadmins.com/mailman/listinfo/studiosysadmins-discuss |
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Posted by: Rory Falloon Date: 07-28-2010, 14:20:PM |
Hey Terry, Do you use the special HP probe to calibrate, along with Equal eyes? This is the probe I talk of: http://h30094.www3.hp.com/product.asp?sku=3869188&mfg_part=KZ300AA&pagemode=ca Rory Falloon Systems Administrator Mr. X Inc. 35 McCaul Street, Ste. #100 Toronto, ON M5T 1V7 T: (416) 595-6222, x 290 F: (416) 595-9122 E: rory@mrxfx.com From: "Terry Dale" <Terry.Dale@Starz.com> To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:14:03 PM Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Starz : Ref / Compositing monitors ? <!--[if !mso]> <![endif]--> <!--[if gte mso 9]><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><![endif]-->
As Rob said these are the LP2480zx Dream Color monitors. We are currently using Rising Sun Equal eyes to do the calibration. These are really great monitors but they can throw out a ton of light and you have to make sure you dial in your desired calibration before they will look correct. In our testing we have had them hold their calibration for 3 months but we do a shorter calibration cycle on the floor just to be safe. They have a 3 year warranty, HP has been really good about replacing bad ones we have 110 on the floor and had about a 30% failure rate, these are just anomalies that show up over time and since we started using them very early in their development we got some bad ones. The new ones seem much better but like I said HP replaces them with no questions asked and fast too.
-Terry.
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[mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] On Behalf Of Fabrice
Altman
Hi guys,
One of our company director recently visited Starz Anim Studio and seems very impressed by their set-up. What he keeps mentioning is that they have lots of very expensive looking âdeepâ monitors. I suspect 10bit grade 1 monitors of some kind. We are currently reviewing how we handle colour management throughout the studio so any piece of advice On the subject is of interest.
Would anyone from Starz like to shed some light on this ? What brand, calibration software etc ... ?
Cheers ! F.
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Posted by: Terry Dale Date: 07-28-2010, 14:25:PM |
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Yes, it is basically a rebranded i1 but they have tweaked it a bit to read the backlight on the TFT display properly. We used a standard i1 for a long time and the switch was minimal but it does seem more accurate in the blacks with the HP branded version. -Terry.
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[mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] On Behalf Of Rory
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Hey
Terry, From: "Terry Dale" <Terry.Dale@Starz.com>
As Rob said these are the LP2480zx Dream Color monitors. We are currently using Rising Sun Equal eyes to do the calibration. These are really great monitors but they can throw out a ton of light and you have to make sure you dial in your desired calibration before they will look correct. In our testing we have had them hold their calibration for 3 months but we do a shorter calibration cycle on the floor just to be safe. They have a 3 year warranty, HP has been really good about replacing bad ones we have 110 on the floor and had about a 30% failure rate, these are just anomalies that show up over time and since we started using them very early in their development we got some bad ones. The new ones seem much better but like I said HP replaces them with no questions asked and fast too.
-Terry.
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[mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] On Behalf Of Fabrice
Altman
Hi guys,
One of our company director recently visited Starz Anim Studio and seems very impressed by their set-up. What he keeps mentioning is that they have lots of very expensive looking “deep” monitors. I suspect 10bit grade 1 monitors of some kind. We are currently reviewing how we handle colour management throughout the studio so any piece of advice On the subject is of interest.
Would anyone from Starz like to shed some light on this ? What brand, calibration software etc ... ?
Cheers ! F.
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Posted by: Rory Falloon Date: 07-28-2010, 14:25:PM |
Cool. Thanks for clarifying. Rory Falloon Systems Administrator Mr. X Inc. 35 McCaul Street, Ste. #100 Toronto, ON M5T 1V7 T: (416) 595-6222, x 290 F: (416) 595-9122 E: rory@mrxfx.com From: "Terry Dale" <Terry.Dale@Starz.com> To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:22:10 PM Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Starz : Ref / Compositing monitors ? <!--[if !mso]> <![endif]--> <!--[if gte mso 9]><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><![endif]--> Yes, it is basically a rebranded i1 but they have tweaked it a bit to read the backlight on the TFT display properly. We used a standard i1 for a long time and the switch was minimal but it does seem more accurate in the blacks with the HP branded version.
-Terry.
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[mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] On Behalf Of Rory
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Hey
Terry, From: "Terry Dale" <Terry.Dale@Starz.com>
As Rob said these are the LP2480zx Dream Color monitors. We are currently using Rising Sun Equal eyes to do the calibration. These are really great monitors but they can throw out a ton of light and you have to make sure you dial in your desired calibration before they will look correct. In our testing we have had them hold their calibration for 3 months but we do a shorter calibration cycle on the floor just to be safe. They have a 3 year warranty, HP has been really good about replacing bad ones we have 110 on the floor and had about a 30% failure rate, these are just anomalies that show up over time and since we started using them very early in their development we got some bad ones. The new ones seem much better but like I said HP replaces them with no questions asked and fast too.
-Terry.
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[mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] On Behalf Of Fabrice
Altman
Hi guys,
One of our company director recently visited Starz Anim Studio and seems very impressed by their set-up. What he keeps mentioning is that they have lots of very expensive looking âdeepâ monitors. I suspect 10bit grade 1 monitors of some kind. We are currently reviewing how we handle colour management throughout the studio so any piece of advice On the subject is of interest.
Would anyone from Starz like to shed some light on this ? What brand, calibration software etc ... ?
Cheers ! F.
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Posted by: Fabrice Altman Date: 07-29-2010, 04:50:AM |
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Hi Terry, Thanks for sharing. Few questions spring to mind : Are all your boxes equipped with 30bit capable GPUs ? Are 100% of the failures on the newer ones a “slow death” rather than “sudden death” ? Just to be clear, Equal Eyes is an absolute necessity for you workflow with these monitors ? Cheers, F. From: Terry Dale [mailto:Terry.Dale@Starz.com]
As Rob said these are the LP2480zx Dream Color monitors. We are currently using Rising Sun Equal eyes to do the calibration. These are really great monitors but they can throw out a ton of light and you have to make sure you dial in your desired calibration before they will look correct. In our testing we have had them hold their calibration for 3 months but we do a shorter calibration cycle on the floor just to be safe. They have a 3 year warranty, HP has been really good about replacing bad ones we have 110 on the floor and had about a 30% failure rate, these are just anomalies that show up over time and since we started using them very early in their development we got some bad ones. The new ones seem much better but like I said HP replaces them with no questions asked and fast too. -Terry.
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[mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] On Behalf Of Fabrice
Altman Hi guys,
One of our company director recently visited Starz Anim Studio and seems very impressed by their set-up. What he keeps mentioning is that they have lots of very expensive looking “deep” monitors. I suspect 10bit grade 1 monitors of some kind. We are currently reviewing how we handle colour management throughout the studio so any piece of advice On the subject is of interest.
Would anyone from Starz like to shed some light on this ? What brand, calibration software etc ... ?
Cheers ! F. |
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Posted by: Gareth Corbett Date: 07-29-2010, 05:30:AM |
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Hi Fabrice I don’t know about the new “Fermi” QuadroFX cards but the previous generation x800 GPU’s weren’t 10bit internally but could output 10bit Whereas the ATI FirePro cards are 10bit internally AND 10bit output The new ATI FirePro V8800 card is amazing what you get for the price. Let me know off list if you are interested as I may be able to get you a demo card if you like? Apple haven’t put ATI cards in all their new Mac Pro’s for nothing. Regards Gareth Corbett IT Manager Direct
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Hi Terry, Thanks for sharing. Few questions spring to mind : Are all your boxes equipped with 30bit capable GPUs ? Are 100% of the failures on the newer ones a “slow death” rather than “sudden death” ? Just to be clear, Equal Eyes is an absolute necessity for you workflow with these monitors ? Cheers, F. From: Terry Dale [mailto:Terry.Dale@Starz.com]
As Rob said these are the LP2480zx Dream Color monitors. We are currently using Rising Sun Equal eyes to do the calibration. These are really great monitors but they can throw out a ton of light and you have to make sure you dial in your desired calibration before they will look correct. In our testing we have had them hold their calibration for 3 months but we do a shorter calibration cycle on the floor just to be safe. They have a 3 year warranty, HP has been really good about replacing bad ones we have 110 on the floor and had about a 30% failure rate, these are just anomalies that show up over time and since we started using them very early in their development we got some bad ones. The new ones seem much better but like I said HP replaces them with no questions asked and fast too. -Terry.
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[mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] On Behalf Of Fabrice
Altman Hi guys,
One of our company director recently visited Starz Anim Studio and seems very impressed by their set-up. What he keeps mentioning is that they have lots of very expensive looking “deep” monitors. I suspect 10bit grade 1 monitors of some kind. We are currently reviewing how we handle colour management throughout the studio so any piece of advice On the subject is of interest.
Would anyone from Starz like to shed some light on this ? What brand, calibration software etc ... ?
Cheers ! F. |
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